Everyone's Plan B

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November 2, 2012

Check out Gary Whats-his-name's website. He says " Five percent of the vote ends the two-party abuse and allows Libertarian candidates equal ballot access and FEDERAL FUNDING) The caps are mine.
Neither Romney nor Obama have sought campaign funds this year. But Giggling Gary is almost giddy with the prospect of getting taxpayer funding for his loony ideas. Keep in mind that his brand of conservatism and fiscal responsibility was drowned out during the Republican primaries. He didn't have what it takes to make it on the national stage.
Vote Romney. Prevent increased taxpayer handouts to political parties.

1 year 5 months ago

Gary whats his name is an idiot if he thinks 5% will end the two party system. Perot got 19% and how many decades has it been now till this rumbling for a third. Also have to wonder how many check off that $3 donation box. Whatever the total is with PAC's it isn't enough to matter. Add to that the history of third party failures and it is obvious that it will never happen.

1 year 5 months ago

Ray - you are a danged FOOL - the system is RIGGED - the "lesser of two evils" ultimately gives us a choice between Hitler and Stalin - do you prefer the Socialist Obama or the Fascist Romney?

Yep - GJ did not have what it takes to get on the national arena - a willingness to kiss the Plutocracies @$$ - likewise Ron Paul.

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1 year 5 months ago

Ray - Old Giggling has as much chance in 2016 as he would have now. That would be zero. He might actually help reelect someone again as he just may if enough idiots vote for the Giggler this time. People need to refocus, help get rid of Obama and work toward real change. These people are like diapers. If they don't do the job then we need to change them. Right now we need to get Obama and Moochelle out of The People's House.

1 year 5 months ago (Edited)

That money is the donated money people make when filing their taxes, it is not forced taxpayer money. How can we ever have a third party if the two parties do everything they can to stop them? I am a Republican but do not feel I am being represented by them any more.

1 year 5 months ago

John - So you joined a TPM site (this one) to work toward changing the system. That takes time. It took how long to have them screw it up? So don't expect instant gratification to solve it. TPM members know that this election isn't the cure all. We started in 2010 and are moving in the right direction. There are those here who sem to want to distract from the issue at hand. What is that? Getting Obama and his clan out of The People's House.

1 year 5 months ago

Real Change sound like a campaign slogan, no better than Hope and Change which can mean what ever the listener wants it to mean. See I don't just want jobs created,

I want a free market. FRD created jobs out of The New Deal, does that work for you?

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1 year 5 months ago

Time? Ron Paul, myself and a few thousand more have been working toward changing the system since at least 1987. Tell me about time.
Now here we are...absolutely stupid Americans are defending dictatorial Presidential authority. The economy is set to crash whether Obama or Romney is elected. You want to tell me about time? Time is about up Jim.
At the very least, it will never be said that I didn't try.

1 year 5 months ago

Jim, I have been working on this for some 20 plus years, probably 30 plus, from the days most people here were saying people like myself were nut cases, I clearly remember hearing that will never happen in America, not here. Pretty much those same people, now many or most are here or groups like this, now are still not accepting the real reality of the problems we face.

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1 year 5 months ago (Edited)

You know, if people were not so struck by Romney, not the right word. Acting like he was a savior, opps Ron Paul supporters were being accused of that.

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1 year 5 months ago (Edited)

Romney isn't going to take us in the wrong direction any more slowly. That's just the talk of desperate people clinging to a false hope. I understand the need to cling to any hope even if it's false, but that's all it is, false hope.

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1 year 5 months ago

Sue, I don;t think they do think about things like our President can now assassinate us. They feel they have nothing to fear, they refuse to think it could be them, it will never happen to me. I guess as long as you are part of the controlling party you/they have little to worry about, well that seems to be the mentality or it's just not think about it, it is too overwhelming and depressing.

1 year 5 months ago

Denial and avoidance don't save you or your family. In fact, it puts them in MORE danger. It allows the danger into your home.

I wouldn't say that lightly. With the laws on the books, the police state in the streets, we can see it already happening. With the agenda being clear (if you only look) it is also clear what will come next. Again, with the laws on the books and the people/supplies, etc. in place ready to move in on us.

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1 year 5 months ago

The "lesser of two evils" assessment is fringespin. I just hope all those folks rushing down the highway at top speed with blinders fully in place will wear the group hair shirt when they deliver the country to Obama by splitting the vote.

Another Patriot posted the following on FC and I posted it to FB. It's worth a look, for those who are truly interested in comparing "the two evils."
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1 year 5 months ago

Funny how Ron Paul always comes up in these conversations! The same fools who fell for that corrked old politicians line of BS have simply moved over to the shill Johnson.
Like Pail who made wild promises he knew he could not keep so does the shill Johnson.
These people are easly fooled by politicians and the subliminal messages of the MSM.

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1 year 5 months ago

Not one answer to my questions, just more name calling. You know what bothers me the most, is so many act like the Constitution is really meaningless, sure it gets lip service but no action.

Mike you have never answered my question from another topic, do you actually believe Johnson is part of the Obama organization has a close relationship working with Obama, a shill?

1 year 5 months ago

Why are the people wanting freedom, the freedoms guaranteed us by our Creator made out to be the bad guys?

1 year 5 months ago

Just saying...wasn't there an economy crisis when Hitler got elected?

1 year 5 months ago

Whether you know it or not Marcello, you are a dictator supporter.

1 year 5 months ago

I'd rather take a hand out any day than steal what I need to survive!

Obviously had some of you been around during the time of our founding we would all be subjects now to Great Britain. Yet you put down the one man who stands by The Constitution!

Who are the fools?

1 year 5 months ago

Sue, you're right. Economic crises preceded the takeovers of both Hitler and Mussolini. Obama's agenda has been to break the back of our economy, so he could move us, too, into Fascism. And that's why we Patriots are fighting so hard to restore Constitutional Law. Personally, I'm against the legal drug stuff as I can see that leading nowhere but to people blown out of their socks driving the wrong way down a highway.

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1 year 5 months ago

And someone mentioned Romney has not said one word against Agenda 21. I just pulled this paragraph from a Liberal rag:

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1 year 5 months ago

@ Essie....That's just it, you are being led, and you are condoning the disgusting behavior of the GOP! You are giving them a free pass to run all over Americans. If you think for one minute that they are doing the will of the American people you are sadly mistaken! Their plan is to continue to enslave the American people and you are helping them every step of the way!

1 year 5 months ago

GOP Continues To Violate Own Rules To Help Mitt Romney

While Mitt Romney won three states this past Tuesday, it seems he had a bit of help from the Republican National Committee (RNC). This help came as the RNC continues to break its own rules in order to help Mitt Romney gain the nomination.

According to Rule 11, Section A of the Republican Party rules:

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1 year 5 months ago

Essie, as governor Romney wrote a letter to the NY governor Pataki encouraging him to get on board with a cap and trade energy exchange board. What makes you think Romney is done flip flopping?

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1 year 5 months ago

Ron Paul Delegates Booted in Massachusetts

A Republican committee in Massachusetts has dumped 17 presidential delegates and alternates who are supporters of Texas Rep. Ron Paul.

The Allocations Committee took the action because the delegates failed to meet a deadline for filing an affidavit committing themselves to support Mitt Romney, The Boston Globe reports.

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