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7 mins ago by Sue R

Chris Matthews vs. Debbie Wasserman Schultz: "What's The Difference Between A Democrat And A Socialist?"

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If we are going to use the 14th to say that the Bill of Rights is incorporated into the structure of our states we better be darn sure that the Bill of Rights is understood. It isn't. For example, under what circumstances is a state EPA okay when we know for certain that a federal EPA is not? Enumerated powers of the states are abundant.

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Some libertarians may have difficulty with Barnett’s views about the 14th Amendment. Peterson sums up, “Also, the 14th Amendment requires that the privileges or immunities of citizens shall not be abridged. So it sets tight textual limits on the exercise of the states’ police power — limits not always observed by a pliable Supreme Court.”

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I belabor this point because it seems to confuse many well-intentioned libertarians, who see that the Constitution lists a right, and scratch their heads at the idea that this does not mean the federal government can swoop into Texas and enforce this right. As they see it, it is simple: individuals have, say, a right to free speech (true); it is listed in the Bill of Rights (true); so "of course" the Supreme Court should be able to strike down state laws that censor speech.

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13 mins ago by Sue R

Limiting property rights is always illegitimate. Limiting political rights may be essential.

Immigrants Aren’t the Only Ones Who Shouldn’t Be Voting
by Ryan McMaken

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I had a hard time getting into this article the first time I went to read it. So, I came back later. It is a fascinating article. With agreement to the point about immigrants voting, I am struck by the realization of what a huge conflict of interest position we are now in with so many being directly, or indirectly, relying on government for their income. This has never occurred to me in such a clear way before.

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6 days 18 hours ago

Just look at how many government employees there are and then think how many would support cutting the job of one of their fellow workers when they could be next?

Your right, the constitution is the only real answer or we start thinking about limit political rights. Is this not close to the same thing a unions for government employees?

6 days 3 hours ago

Oops, I have pizza on my mind and put this in the wrong place :)

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3 hours ago by Sue R

You don't need a flag to celebrate your independence. You were born free.

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BTW, 'Live free or die.' is my personal favorite. Why waste your life in bondage to anything?

4 hours 16 mins ago

So in solidarity should all people be proud to pay taxes for the same thing? What if something that makes one proud makes another ashamed?
The majority will decide what one should feel about any given tax charge?
The Christian majority? Being that there are left leaning Christians and right leaning Christians it's just a matter of which inclination achieves the appeal to the largest audience?

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5 hours ago by John W

Some say there is a thin line Between Nationalism and Patriotism, I say no there isn't

Difference Between Nationalism and Patriotism

Nationalism vs Patriotism

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Isn't taking a look at the Constitution a real short cut to figuring it out Tom?

4 days 19 hours ago

I think the best common vision we can look at is our Constitution, everything else is personal, that is individual.

4 days 3 hours ago

Nationalism can be linked to both socialist and fascist. So what's the basic or end result difference between as socialist and a fascist?
See my thoughts here: http://connect.freedomworks.org/node/166...

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6 hours ago by John W

Bastiat Society Rallies Business Leaders Together
by Richard Morrison

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A good news post. I love it!

23 hours 25 mins ago

It does feel good when something positive towards liberty comes around, doesn't it.

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6 hours ago by John W

This next article really hits home, here, on FC. The Founders words:

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I remember hearing about one church who bought a Hardy's and was running it as a job training program and was paying no taxes on it.

6 hours 25 mins ago

Sue, my post today could actually go along with what you said with "We argue day in and day out about taxes going for Planned Parenthood."

Chris Matthews vs. Debbie Wasserman Schultz: "What's The Difference Between A Democrat And A Socialist?"
http://connect.freedomworks.org/node/166...

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6 hours 9 mins ago

Joe your comment "i can fight the laws if i choose" sounds much more like apathy. But then will complain when someone else is apathetic towards your issue.

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1 day ago by John W

jus·tice
ˈjəstəs/
noun
1.
just behavior or treatment.
"a concern for justice, peace, and genuine respect for people"

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Naturally occurring inequality vs manipulated handicapping to achieve equality.

3 days 3 hours ago

A short story by Kurt Vonnegut provides an even more comprehensive description of a fully egalitarian society. Thus, Vonnegut begins his story, “Harrison Bergeron”:

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3 days 3 hours ago

I think this quote address justice very well:

The law of self-preservation is higher than written law. - Thomas Jefferson

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1 day ago by Kevin Y

Seven Billion Cheers for Direct Democracy
…by Moti Nissani, Phd., Prof. Emeritus, Wayne State University

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I don't think you missed anything John. They are absolutely citing democracy, genuine democracy, as the solution.
The contradictions are abundant. They are critical of that the powerful faction of founders chose the second best solution and yet sidestep the fact that democracy is grounded in powerful faction.
It's a sick site.

1 day 4 hours ago

You mean. utterly stupid!

1 day 3 hours ago

Direct democracy is merely a step from minority rule to majority rule. If the populace is stupid, then all have to suffer their stupidity.

Self -government, as the Founders of THIS country intended, is the ONLY true way to success.

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1 day ago by Lon Haney

Seven Billion Cheers for Direct Democracy
…by Moti Nissani, Phd., Prof. Emeritus, Wayne State University

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Sorry Joe, This posted twice, there are comments on the other thread.
I am amazed there is no respect for a Nation of laws by the people. A Republic. More freedom than any people ever had received.
Yet the corruption and cronyism attacked freedom and liberty relentlessly. It is a shame many people do not appreciate anything until it is gone or dying.

2 days 5 hours ago

Cant find it. Is it another group?

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2 days ago by Sue R

Jason Stapleton: How Big a Threat is ISIS
By Jason Stapleton

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If I only look at my neighbors house I will miss everything else happening around it. If everything around it is the cause of my neighbors problems but all I see is my neighbor then I must blame my neighbor, right?

1 week 3 days ago

"No, we aren't in this alone, but what if we simply refused to be part of it?
We the individuals?

2 days 5 hours ago

Yup. Anti-war is not exclusive to liberals and the left is it? That statement makes me laugh even though it isn't funny. Look at all the support for Obama's wars.

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