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8 hours ago by Gary Hall

What do you see as to what liberty is suppose to be in America?

Before you answer this think about it, it is used three times in our Constitution.

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Married people were given "extra rights".

16 hours 9 mins ago

John W -

"Sorry for the hart comment but the report I read today just makes me sick to my stomach and very sad."

I'm not the one moving the "Overton Window" John. I'm just calling it how I see it. I really don't understand why the article you referred to comes as a sudden shock to you because you live in a country with so many laws that the average person breaks almost 4 a day without even having the knowledge of doing so.

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15 hours 26 mins ago

John W & Sue R -

Just so we're all clear. I do not support government involvement in marriage at all. I never have and I never will.

I consider marriage a religious practice because that is exactly what it was prior to government taking an interest in establishing the practice with laws and tax codes. In my opinion, by codifying the practice, both the federal and state governments are in direct violation of the 1rst amendment.

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19 hours ago by John W

One need not be a Christian, or even religious, to share this faith.....

Liberty with Dignity, Mutual Respect, and Morality
by Adam Gurri

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So let me try to put this into simple words. Liberty is not the absence of consideration for others. When the government is limited to laws about pocket picking and leg breaking it is not the license for individuals to treat one another badly. The free market will drive better practices among individuals.

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22 hours 2 mins ago (Edited)

Sue, I would say that is a pretty darn good analogy.

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20 hours ago by John W

So libertarian minded people are crazy, then explain this?

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Couldn't agree more John!

1 day 15 hours ago

"How long did it take for Republicanism to free slaves and give women the right to vote, why are we so afraid of others having freedom?"

I think what we miss when we consider these questions is that at no time did our Constitutional Republic ever legitimatize the keeping of slaves or the prevention of women voting.

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21 hours 52 mins ago

Sue, your perspective is a very legitimate one on many levels. Where I see the problem, if it should be called a problem in the human mind and it being conditioned by others on things which they have not see and/or learn for themselves. This is a tough point to make and break, most of us have been shocked by electricity but we do not really know what it will do if we play with it in the tub other than what we have been told but we all agree, do not play with electric in water.

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23 hours ago by Sue R
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Gary, when I started my LLC and helped start a non-profit both stated they could sue or be sued. Everything you stated falls down to legislators making it harder for us to sue, I think they call it tort reform which is something Republicans like to talk about.

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2 days 16 hours ago

Sue R -

First off, I wasn't "told" wrong. I've put internet networks together Sue. Of all the different methods to distribute the internet, the only two that truly claim they can not guarantee their upload and download speeds due to the type of connection they use are satellite and dial-up. Every other method of delivery for internet service is a dedicated internet line - phone lines, cable, cell and wi-fi signals.

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1 day 7 hours ago

As long as we're clear that you are not supporting net neutrality or whatever it is they are calling this bill now, we're all good Gary.
By the way, you can sue the provider, it's only class action suits that the contract mentions and even then, I can't see that the association of a few people in a law suit could be denied as long as you have the same complaint.

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1 day ago by Lon Haney

The Truth is like a lion, when unleashed it defends itself.
<3> stages of Truth
1. It is considered to be ridiculous. = "Conspiracy."

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I would like to take one quote from the Bible I use.  Please bear with me.  Matthew 22:37-40

"thou shalt love the Lord Thy God with all heart, with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.  This is the first and great commandment.  The second is like unto it, thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.  On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."

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9 months 2 days ago (Edited)

He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. – Thomas Jefferson

1 day 16 hours ago

Zombies know nothing.
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Ecclesiastes 9:5
When mankind ate from the tree of knowledge our course was set.
So we must search for the Truths.

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Control freaks want to run your life.

Control Freaks Still Targeting Tobacco
Rule-makers always want more.
John Stossel

Control freaks want to run your life. They call themselves "public servants." But whether student council president, environmental bureaucrat, or member of Congress, most believe they know how to run your life better than you do.

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Marijuana meddle: UN official rips US states over legal pot policies

A Russian diplomat who heads the United Nations’ drug policy office reportedly chided U.S. states for legalizing recreational marijuana and vowed to take up his concerns with officials in Washington -- in the latest incident of a U.N. official meddling in local U.S. affairs.

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2 days ago by Lon Haney

Selling Liberty as a product.....

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That wasn't my question Lon. My question was about those who have been manipulated to fear Muslims so much as to support unlawful wars.
If I can comment about energy, there has been some very immoral and unlawful aspects to American energy policy. Ultimately it was as you said Lon, about the $$$, but there is this phenomenon called "in our national interests". "In our national interests" is the counter point to the Golden Rule.

2 days 22 hours ago

UN. energy policy is in contrast because it is based and laced with lies.
If in fact it was based in Truth would the golden rule apply?

2 days 22 hours ago

"That wasn't my question Lon." My question was about those who have been manipulated to fear Muslims so much as to support unlawful wars.

Lies, fear and hatred being generated is causing many not to behave morally. These tactics work on any scale.

2 days 1 hour ago
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3 days ago by John W

What is Republicanism?

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I should have titled this topic as "What I believe would put Republicans in a position to where they would never lose a race again"

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Words to get us thinking today.

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