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November 27, 2012

Interesting thing Ron Paul and numerous other outlets have now come out with is the portion of Obamacare that will require us to get RFID Implants. Here comes the Tyranny and we have idiots jumping for joy about it. They will implant this thing in me over my dead body.

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/201...

1 year 4 months ago

Research before you drop this false crap on people. God!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/m...

1 year 4 months ago

Actually I did extensive research and resources much later than your one source from August 12. There is already a go ahead on RFID implants for those receiving EBT benefits. So try again Adam. I do realize that HR3200 did not pass which is where this originally was. However, don't think for a minute that the device tracking clause in HR3590 doesn't allow for it. The FDA and USDA have already approved the use of RFID. Certainly it's not coming in March of 2013 but it is coming.

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1 year 4 months ago

"They will implant this thing in me over my dead body.They will implant this thing in me over my dead body."

AMEN!

1 year 4 months ago (Edited)

Ronnie is completely correct on this and it is obvious that he HAS done his research It is also obvious that you have not a clue what you are talking about ONCE again.

1 year 4 months ago

By the way Adam why not check out SEC. 399II. COLLECTION AND ANALYSIS OF DATA FOR QUALITY AND RESOURCE USE MEASURES in the actual bill. It specifically declares that the Secretary may implement any means deemed reasonable for collecting patient data. What do you think that might lead to?

1 year 4 months ago

research snopes.

1 year 4 months ago

Yeah Julie I already mentioned SNOPES. I admit that the March 2013 deadline is not going to happen. But the fact that it was already on the table in the old bill and new language is left vague in the new bill, HR3590, still leaves this possibility open. Don't kid yourself? Has no one even read HR3590? I know 75% of Congress hasn't but I have and the language in there for the governing Secretary still leaves this an open possibility. It's already in gear for the EBT program.

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1 year 4 months ago

no I meant don't trust snopes, I have forgotten why now, I think it is somehow associated with Soros.

1 year 4 months ago

By the way what makes SNOPES such a credible resource anyway? It's no more so than Wikipedia. Why not troll around the Government's website every now and then and see what you find? You will find some interesting information there and one of the easiest to have your eyes opened to things is going to this link http://www.usa.gov/directory/federal/ind....

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1 year 4 months ago

I always check every article against 5 sites of the 10 in my cache. This time it was snopes, truthorfiction, scambusters, urbanlegendsonline and purportal. I also found broken links to legislation since abandoned. All I got was references to the possible RFID of medical devices themselves.

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1 year 4 months ago

My vet doesn't put the chips in dogs as enthusiastically as they did when the chips first came out. The chips were moving around and causing problems. He will still do it, but not without making sure he has disclosed the risk. Has anyone else experienced this with their vet?
Maybe it's in the bill but the science is nowhere near ready?

1 year 4 months ago

Sue I know the problems with veterinary implants and you're absolutely correct I don't think the technology is there yet either. I am no way saying that this is going to be implemented by the original March 2013 deadline as was posted to Daily Paul. However, it's majorly important to take this seriously well in advanced and fight it from ever happening in the future. This is Orwellian stuff coming true right before our eyes.

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1 year 4 months ago

Thank you Julie for the clarification. Sorry I misinterpreted your post on SNOPES.

1 year 4 months ago

Adam said a bad word...

1 year 4 months ago

Too funny Rino Buster.

1 year 4 months ago

@ Sue...Yes I was asked by my VET if I wanted to chip my dog. No, I did not do it.

@ Adam...There is a local hospital here were I live that has been discussing the chip with their employees.

1 year 4 months ago

Thank you Adam I feel better now.

1 year 4 months ago

Some kids may not be open minded, I guess, but the same can be said for the older crowd as well. It's a shame to tune out infowars like that. Some things may sound a little out there, but that's our world these days. And they do have links to sources for checking things out for yourself. They just happen to be the first reporting on many things. I find what sounds far out today becomes our reality soon. That's what alternative media does, report the truth.

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1 year 4 months ago

I can see this chip being the same horror that vaccines have become. I don't think they will push it on adults. I think they will begin by "nudging" (Cass Sunstein) parents of newborns about how much safer their babies will be. They will make the poor susceptible parents feel like bad Mommy and Daddy if they don't do whatever they can to keep their child safe.

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1 year 4 months ago

You know Ramona, I think you are right about tuning in, but I would expand that to, in general. I don't think there is anything wrong with tuning in Rush Limbaugh, or even Sean Hannity (ugh). There is also nothing wrong with tuning in Bill Maher or Racheal Maddow. It's when we fail to question everything that the problems begin.
What just happened here is exactly what should happen here. Bring in what you hear. Let's work on it together. We need to communicate.

1 year 4 months ago (Edited)

So far I know they're putting RFID chips in dog tags for students to wear, ID cards.
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/08/31/...

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1 year 4 months ago

"It's when we fail to question everything that the problems begin."

Exactly. There's no way to listen to everyone, every source. But a good variety and open mind, along with research on those questions goes a long way to sorting out what is the truth and what is really going on. Depending on local or national news to tell us that just doesn't cut it.

1 year 4 months ago

They are moving around inside the dogs though Ramona. They aren't physically safe, but I'm not going to say that they don't show up in the Obama care bill. That bill is something that was written awhile ago and I'm sure not one of us has read it through cover to cover. I absolutely believe that it is the future.

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1 year 4 months ago

My reply was delayed so I had typed a backup. Reply showed up. Backup not required.

1 year 4 months ago (Edited)
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