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Everyone here wants the same thing. To change whats going on in DC and take back our country before it's too late. If we continue to bicker amongst ourselves for the next 4 years, I'm afraid someone like Hillary Clinton will come along and ride the wave of Liberalism that is running rampant in this country today. If that happens, our children will never know the freedom that we grew up with and have come to take for granted. WE NEED TO UNITE. There are Conservatives, Libertarians, RINO's and even Liberals on this site.We all have our views. We need to start talking about some common ground. If we use this site to unite then we can use facebook to get our fix on our obsession to argue.
Great post Tony!
When we all become defenders of the Constitution, we will unite. Until then, the best we can hope to achieve is to educate and to do that, we have to spread the message around. The line on FC has been clearly drawn. Austin Peterson is a defender of the Constitution. Freedom Works is clearly not.
I suggest we set up a group page to post what is going on in congress every single day so that we all can get a quick glance at what is taking place.
Then we burn up the phone, fax lines, and email addresses of congress. We have to be heard one way or another. It is our responsibility to keep them in line with the will of the people.
Well said, Tony.
The time is ripe for this. Salon recently ran an article on NDAA 2013 where they said the same thing. Both sides are ready.
Can both sides agree to these?
-- Audit/End the Fed
-- Balance the federal budget
-- Get our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, and stop unlawful destabilization of Syria / Libya / Egypt
-- Roll back the growing police state (Patriot Act, DHS, indefinite detention, etc)
Both sides of those who would consider themselves to be Republicans can't agree on that Mark. The GOP doesn't want any of that and neither does the Democratic Party.
I'm with you. I agree to all that 100%.
Molly, FC already attempts to do that for us. It's a tough task. Sometimes it seems to me now that there's a lot of bringing things up, then they kind of go away and then boom...they are back again. Internet freedom is one of those things. We never know where those bills are half the time.
You're right, Sue -- both Parties are bought and paid for.
What I'm seeing is increasing numbers of people, both liberal and conservative, that realize this, and fear for where we're headed.
I'm wondering if this growing number of people can agree on the above and take action together.
Mark, you are right. We need to focus on a few key issues where most people can agree.
Agreed. It's all about those key issues and involving both sides.
Progressives co-opted the civil rights movement. Social conservatives co-opted the Tea Party movement. A group consisting of both conservatives and liberals couldn't be absorbed in this way.
The trick is to keep such a group together, and that requires a small set of common goals.
Chris, do you agree with Mark's key issues and his positions on them?
Hi Sue, hope you are well!
Does FC send out alerts on issues and what actions need to be taken? If so, I've never seen them.
I do agree with Mark's key issues. I also agree with you that the D and R party leaders do not support these things. They are puppets of the big banks, corporations, and unions that "donate" to their campaigns. If We the People are going to work together on some issues, we are going to have to agree to disagree on others. A wise Captain I fished with for years told me this.
I do agree with Mark's key issues. I also agree with you that the D and R party leaders do not support these things. They are puppets of the big banks, corporations, and unions that "donate" to their campaigns. If We the People are going to work together on some issues, we are going to have to agree to disagree on others. A wise Captain I fished with for years told me this. "When everybody thinks alike, nobody thinks." I believe Mark is right about an increasing number of citizens from both major political parties being fed up with what our "leaders" are doing and fear where we are headed if something does not change soon. It is up to us to start managing our public servant employees. We need to start with the basics most Americans can agree on.
First thing is first, write your House Rep, Republican or Democrat and tell them to impeach Obama.
I have to agree some on the analogy of where we are as a nation. Divided is by design and is played very well by Obama. He uses the rich 1% to make examples of thus getting the 98% envious. Then dividing the people by race.
The American people had better get involved in the process or soon their will be no process just dictation.
I get emails from Matt Kribbes (sp?) all the time. Also from others. The other place to look is at the news/home page here Molly.
Impeaching Obama is a nice thought, but the liberals tried that with Bush. It doesn 't work.
Fellow patriots: I am part of a national "Letters to the Editor" writing group. WE ARE CHANGING THINGS. Join us if you want to be part of it. Contact me, Glen Terrell, at firstname.lastname@example.org. We are working to get the FairTax Act passed now. If we are successful it will be the greatest transfer of power from the government to "we the people" ever. We could use your help!
Someone posted this earlier and it speaks volumes.
Please take the time to watch this and see if there are any flaws in it.
The philosophy of Liberty
Can we unite on any of this, if not I feel there is little hope then.
You’ve got a good idea. Somebody needs to bring the right to vote here. Make a list of topics, issues and vote on them. What many people fail to realize is there is a difference between emotional monologs on things that will never happen and useful political brainstorming on things that could happen.
Examples of things we will never do: Arrest Obama, Impeach Obama, read his school report card,
eliminate drone strikes in Yemen, prove the State Department is run by the Muslim Brotherhood, prove that Obama is working with the New World Order and UN troops to move us into FEMA camps,
there will be a successful revolt against the Federal government by the NRA and some hunters……the list is long.
While such things are fun and even addictive for some, in the end they have no politically useful purpose.
In fact they are a disservice. They suck the oxygen out of the blog that could be spent on organizing for 2014 and they drive away “moderate” citizens who would like lower taxes and less government but leave when we start with the conspiracy theories.
I’m not suggesting we censor people but people simply vote on the topics that should have our attention and that’s where those of us with serious ideas and thoughts can focus.
The Fair Tax is an excellent example of an idea with some things that would work great and some that would not but the idea is worthy of discussion.
I like that idea Molly.
The "other" side is very organized. They have control of the media, write the script that people hear so beat down the voice we try to put out there. That is one strength they possess.
Yes Mark, YES.
My current concerns (calls, emails, etc.) are immigration and gun control. Both are being rammed through as we speak. Emotions and personal feelings aside, they are an attack on our people, economy, country, Constitution and national sovereignty. If only people could see past their own short term concerns and to the bigger picture ... their short term concerns won't matter when these other things collapse.
This is why the media parades out individuals to tug on our emotions, yet won't allow the bigger picture to be discussed or considered. All for politics to fit their agenda and script. The naive fall for it.
While agreeing on core issues, it's important to see how these other things (bills/laws) at hand daily fit in to those core issues. Perhaps that is where some of the disconnect comes in? And perhaps that is due to emotional responses or personal circumstances/experiences? I see them in terms of the bigger picture and where they fit in. You know, baby steps they take to accomplish their goal.
It's like you're in my head. This is exactly what I'm trying to get at with my posts. We need to come together and unite on key issues then we need to find the people running for office that fit that mold. Then we push for those peole with everything we have. Everyone here is gung-ho to go out and change the world in 1 day but, no one seems to be going in the same dirrection. Much like a laser, energy focused can be a powerful thing.
I'm going to put up another post and see if we can get this ship going in the right direction.I think step 1 is realizing how we got here to begin with.
It's critical to pick at least one fairly simple doable issue to work on. It will train people how to work together and get an actual victory under our belts. One needs to define roles and responsibilities: what's your skill? Great you and Bill, please work on X (write a letter to send to Congressperson Y on the Z committee) and we need it done a week from Tuesday. Some people will be limited to just thinking and talking but many others if given a task will become skilled doers. In the end you need both.
All we need is one person to make a change. One person to run for congress. There are many chairs open where I live now on the republican side. Who will fill it? It seems like everyone is always passing the buck. Make the change. All people have to agree on is that our government is no longer trustworthy because they are working like henchmen on our civil liberties like never before. Agree? Okay then lets get to work. It's toooooo obvious.
Carter has a great point about picking one doable issue to work on. That issue needs to be able to get bi-partisan support. We need a simple letter explaining the issue and our goal that people can send to their friends and public servants. There is a level of support for any issue that will make politicians listen. Bi-partisan support doubles the people involved and applies more pressure than just one-sided opposition. The first victory will inspire those involved and others.
Carter has a great point about picking one doable issue to work on. That issue needs to be able to get bi-partisan support. We need a simple letter explaining the issue and our goal that people can send to their friends and public servants. There is a level of support for any issue that will make politicians listen. Bi-partisan support doubles the people involved and applies more pressure than just one-sided opposition. The first victory will inspire those involved and others. Success is infectious and will spread to other areas.
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